blocks|key|810805|text|我不能给出建议，但至少有3种主要类型的程序员：|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|810806|810807|+"get+it+done+guys"，它将使用Rails、Grails或php|unordered-list-item|810808|+"framework+guys"，它将使用Java编写代码，并围绕所有内容创建设计模式(有利有弊)。有几个UI框架；我更喜欢wicket。大多数人在这里使用hibernate作为持久化技术。|offset|length|810809|，是的，“微软人”将用ASP.NET编写代码。那么我会选择C#。要求很高，但我更喜欢独立于操作系统和Java工具|810810|810811|其他语言也有其他方向，但作为起点...如果你感兴趣，也许可以看看云计算和移动炒作。|810812|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://wicket.apache.org/^0|0|0|0|1R|6|0|0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|W|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|-4|5|6|7|X|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|C|3|D|5|E|7|Y|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|E|7|Z|8|@]|9|@$H|10|I|11|1|12]]|A|$]]|$1|J|3|K|5|E|7|13|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|L|3|-4|5|6|7|14|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|M|3|N|5|6|7|15|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|O|3|-4|5|6|7|16|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|P|$Q|$5|R|S|T|A|$U|V]]]]

I cannot give suggestions, but there are at least 3 main types of programmers out there:

<ul>
<li>the "get it done guys", which will code in Rails, Grails or php</li>
<li>the "framework guys", which will code in Java and create design patterns around everything (with pros and cons). There are several UI frameworks out there; I prefer <a href="http://wicket.apache.org/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">wicket</a>. The most people use hibernate here as persistence technic.</li>
<li>and yes, the "Microsoft guys" which will code in ASP.NET. I would choose C# then. The demand is high, but I prefer OS independence and Java tooling</li>
</ul>

There are other directions with other languages, but for a starting point ... maybe take a look at the cloud computing and mobile hype, if you are interested.

blocks|key|4213938|text|也许你可以参加微软官方课程的一些课程；这并不高级，但涵盖了基本的概念。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|4213939|我建议研究一下Microsoft+Learning，并寻找一些课堂培训。|offset|length|4213940|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://learning.microsoft.com/^0|0|7|I|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|N|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|O|8|@]|9|@$D|P|E|Q|1|R]]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|-4|5|6|7|S|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|G|$H|$5|I|J|K|A|$L|M]]]]

Maybe your could to take some classes for Microsoft Official Curriculum; that isn't advanced, but cover basic concepts very well.

I suggest to take a look into <a href="http://learning.microsoft.com/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Microsoft Learning</a> and to look for some classroom training.

blocks|key|816998|text|我不确定您对面向对象有多了解，但我会先从学习这些基础知识开始。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|816999|我会避开VB.NET，转而投身于C#，这是一项更有价值的技能。|817000|我还会看看您的技能集中缺少的任何现代开发实践，例如：|817001|817002|源代码控制，如subversion或git|unordered-list-item|817003|单元测试和测试驱动的Test开发实践|817004|817005|entityMap^0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|O|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|P|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|Q|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|-4|5|6|7|R|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|G|3|H|5|I|7|S|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|J|3|K|5|I|7|T|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|L|3|-4|5|6|7|U|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|M|3|-4|5|6|7|V|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|N|$]]

Not sure how much exposure you've had to object-orientation, but I would start by learning these fundamentals first.

I would steer clear of VB.NET and aim for C# instead, it's a more valuable skill to acquire.

I would also look at any modern development practices you are missing in your skill set such as:

<ul>
<li>Source control like subversion or git</li>
<li>Unit testing and Test-driven development</li>
<li>Agile development practices</li>
</ul>

blocks|key|432611|text|使用“客户端/服务器”比任何东西都更适合你;)现在一切都是关于web的(也就是，n层架构)。当然，这是一种客户端/服务器架构，只是几乎没有人再使用这个术语了。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|432612|entityMap^0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|D|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|-4|5|6|7|E|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|C|$]]

Using "client/server" dates you as much as anything ;) These days everything is all about the web (that is, n-tier architecture). Of course this is a sort of client/server architecture, it's just hardly anybody ever uses the term any more.

blocks|key|4214078|text|听起来是一件很棒的事情。祝好运。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|4214079|我认为C#比VB.NET更受欢迎，所以我认为这可能是开始的地方。ASP.NET也比桌面开发更受欢迎，所以这也可能更好。如果你选择ASP.NET，可以学习最新发布的版本：.Net+3.5，C#3.0，ASP.NET+3.5。下一个版本就在眼前，但是没有任何培训材料提到它，所以请使用3.5版本。|4214080|不假思索，我会推荐这样的东西。其他人也会加入进来；|4214081|4214082|给自己买一些开发软件；微软有一系列免费的工具，你可以在http://www.microsoft.com/express/Windows上学习，所以只要你有一台Windows+PC，你就不需要花费anything.|ordered-list-item|offset|length|4214083|Microsoft也提供了很多文档--我的意思是很多。如果你更喜欢视频，这里有视频。如果你更喜欢书面的，有书面的。这是压倒性的，甚至对我来说也是如此，我已经这样做了很多年;)。首先看这里：http://www.asp.net/，有一个使用ASP.NET构建网站的逐步视频课程，在msdn.microsoft.com上也有很多。|4214084|不要害怕在这里发帖提出明显的问题。|4214085|4214086|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|http://www.microsoft.com/express/Windows/|1|http://www.asp.net/%2528S%2528ywiyuluxr3qb2dfva1z5lgeg%2529%2529/learn/videos/|2|http://msdn.microsoft.com/^0|0|0|0|0|R|14|0|0|2M|J|1|3V|I|2|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|12|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|13|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|14|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|-4|5|6|7|15|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|G|3|H|5|I|7|16|8|@]|9|@$J|17|K|18|1|19]]|A|$]]|$1|L|3|M|5|I|7|1A|8|@]|9|@$J|1B|K|1C|1|1D]|$J|1E|K|1F|1|1G]]|A|$]]|$1|N|3|O|5|I|7|1H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|P|3|-4|5|6|7|1I|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|Q|3|-4|5|6|7|1J|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|R|$S|$5|T|U|V|A|$W|X]]|Y|$5|T|U|V|A|$W|Z]]|10|$5|T|U|V|A|$W|11]]]]

Sounds like a great thing to do. Good luck.

I think C# is much more popular than VB.NET, so I think that might be the place to start. ASP.NET is also more popular than desktop development, so that might be better, too. If you go for ASP.NET, learn the latest released versions; .Net 3.5, C#3.0, ASP.NET 3.5. The next version is just around the corner, but none of the training material out there references it, so go with the 3.5 version.

Off the top of my head, I'd suggest something like this. Other people will chime in, too;

<ol>
<li>Get yourself some development software; Microsoft have a range of free tools you can use to learn at <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/express/Windows/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://www.microsoft.com/express/Windows</a> so as long as you have a Windows PC you don't have to spend anything.</li>
<li>Microsoft also offer a lot of documentation -- and I mean a lot. If you prefer video, there's video. If you prefer written, there's written. It's overwhelming, even for me, and I've been at it years ;). Head here first: <a href="http://www.asp.net/%28S%28ywiyuluxr3qb2dfva1z5lgeg%29%29/learn/videos/" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http://www.asp.net/</a> and there's a step-by-step video course to putting together web sites using ASP.NET. There's also lots at <a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer">msdn.microsoft.com</a>. </li>
<li>Don't be afraid to post back here with obvious questions. </li>
</ol>

blocks|key|4214113|text|另一条完全不同的道路是进入UNIX领域。获得一台Mac或将Linux安装在PC上，并开始学习如何使用一些常见的web应用程序框架:+Django、Tomcat、Rails和其他框架。这意味着要学习Python、Ruby、Java或Scala中的一个或多个。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|4214114|在这两种情况下，都可以了解整个NOSQL概念。了解REST的含义以及如何应用它。|4214115|entityMap^0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|F|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|G|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|-4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|E|$]]

The other path entirely is to head into UNIX land. Get a Mac or put Linux on a PC, and start learning how to do some things with some of the common web application frameworks; Django, Tomcat, Rails, and friends. That means learning one or more of Python, Ruby, Java or Scala.

In either case, learn about the whole NOSQL concept. Learn what REST means and how to apply it.

blocks|key|432737|text|如今，C#无疑是开始的地方。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|432738|432739|VB.NET并不是那么糟糕的一门语言，但是它的语法与所有其他流行语言的语法非常不同，以至于技能不能很好地迁移。|unordered-list-item|432740|Java在其能力和与其他语言对话的能力方面都非常有限。它还要求你在编程时使用许多“反模式”，因为它缺少基本的功能，比如属性、委托和真正的generics.|432741|Dynamic语言，这些语言没有Java那么差，但不会像C#那样帮助你学习许多基本的编程概念，而且对于初学者来说，它们更难使用，因为它们没有智能感知。etc.|432742|Functional语言，如ML，F#和Haskell，是真正的脑筋急转弯。它们是学习全面发展的好语言，但不适合胆小的人。|432743|432744|我会从你当地社区大学的C#课程开始，然后拿起一些关于它的书，读一段时间。这将使您熟悉该语言和NET+Framework。|432745|一旦您掌握了该语言本身并了解了如何使用NET+Framework的某些部分，我将下载一些简单的WPF+(或Silverlight)应用程序的源代码，并探索它们的工作原理。WPF是一个比ASP.NET更好的选择，因为ASP.NET在处理回发、超文本标记语言和JavaScript时引入了大量额外的复杂性，而这些在WPF中根本不存在。而且，未来基于浏览器的应用程序似乎将是富互联网应用程序(RIA)，所有这些应用程序使用的机制都比ASP.NET更接近WPF/Silverlight。我之所以在Silverlight之前使用WPF，只是因为当您打开沙箱时，您可以自己学习用户界面技术，而不必学习沙箱带来的所有复杂性和访问服务器上的数据库。|432746|只有在做完所有这些之后，我才会开始构建n层应用程序。再说一次，在自己做一个之前，我会看很多例子。选择简单的方法，并效仿它们。你会发现很多都是过度设计的。|432747|entityMap^0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|U|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|-4|5|6|7|V|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|C|3|D|5|E|7|W|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|E|7|X|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|H|3|I|5|E|7|Y|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|J|3|K|5|E|7|Z|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|L|3|-4|5|6|7|10|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|M|3|N|5|6|7|11|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|O|3|P|5|6|7|12|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|Q|3|R|5|6|7|13|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|S|3|-4|5|6|7|14|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|T|$]]

Nowadays C# is unquestionably the place to start.

<ul>
<li>VB.NET is not that bad of a language, but the syntax is so different from all other popular languages that skill don't transfer very well.</li>
<li>Java is incredibly limited, both in its capabilities and in its ability to talk to other languages. It also requires you to use many "anti-patterns" when programming because it is missing fundamental features such as properties, delegates and true generics.</li>
<li>Dynamic languages like Ruby, Python, or PHP are not as bad as Java, but will not help you learn many fundamental programming concepts as with C#, plus they are harder for a beginner to use because they don't have Intellisense, etc.</li>
<li>Functional languages like ML, F# and Haskell are real mind-benders. They are good languages to learn to be well-rounded but are not for the faint of heart.</li>
</ul>

I would start by taking a C# class at your local community college, then picking up some books on it and reading for a while. This will give you familiarity with both the language and the NET Framework.

Once you have mastered the language itself and understand how to use some portions of the NET Framework, I would download the source code for some simple WPF (or Silverlight) applications and explore them to see how they work. WPF would be a better choice to start with than ASP.NET because ASP.NET introduces a ton of extra complexity in dealing with postbacks, HTML and JavaScript that don't exist at all in WPF. Also, it appears that the browser-base applications of the future will be Rich Internet Applications (RIAs), all of which use a mechanism much closer to WPF/Silverlight than ASP.NET. I would start with WPF before Silverlight simply because when you're unsandboxed you can learn the user interface technology by itself without having to learn all the complexities introduced by the sandbox and the need to access databases on the server.

Only after doing all of this would I dive into architecting an n-tiered application. Again I would look at many examples before doing one yourself. Pick simple ones and emulate those. Many you will find are far over-engineered.

I was a Adabas/Natural and Cobol mainframe programmer for 16 years ending in 2002. I have a vast amount of experience in the analysis, design, development, testing, implementation and documentation of online and batch applications. I would like to get back into software development after a 7 year hiatis raising my children. 

I have been told that the .NET languages are much in demand these days. Can someone give me advice on which classes I should take to get a solid knowledge of the .NET languages? Should I start with ASP.NET or VB.NET, and which versions? Or, any other advice you may have for someone having to upgrade their programming skills from a mainframe environment to a client-server environment? 

Thanks in advance for any and all input!

How do I transition from mainframe programmer to client server programmer?

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