blocks|key|3871692|text|我认为微软已经取得了巨大的进展，使.Net的访问和使用成本更低。使用功能强大的Visual+Studio和Sql+Server+Express版本，您只需要为Windows本身付费(在您的开发环境和服务器/生产环境中都是如此)。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|3871693|现在唯一阻碍.Net的是，无论成本如何，它可能不是适合每一项工作的正确工具。|3871694|entityMap^0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|F|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|G|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|-4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|E|$]]

I think MS has made huge inroads to making .Net cheaper to access and work with. With competent Express versions of Visual Studio and Sql Server, the only thing you need to pay for is Windows itself (both in your dev environment and server/production environment). 

The only thing holding .Net back now is it may not be the right tool for every job regardless of cost.

blocks|key|91700|text|对我来说就是这样。这让我不禁要问，也许我应该试着成为微软的MVP，因为他们免费获得了所有的软件。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|91701|除了许可证上的最高级别，你不能购买Expression+Blend和Design的任何东西，这让我很恼火。|91702|entityMap^0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|F|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|G|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|-4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|E|$]]

It does to me. It makes me ask maybe I should try and become a Microsoft MVP because they get all the software for free.

You can't buy Expression Blend and Design for anything but the highest level on the License and that just ticks me off.

blocks|key|2550974|text|我不这么认为，特别是对于小型独立软件开发商的empower+program+--+375美元可以买到5MSDN许可证和其他好处。在此之后，还有Microsoft+Action+Packs以及整个合作伙伴计划。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|offset|length|data|2550975|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|https://partner.microsoft.com/40011351|1|https://partner.microsoft.com/US/program/managemembership/actionpack^0|M|F|0|1Z|M|1|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|N|8|@]|9|@$A|O|B|P|1|Q]|$A|R|B|S|1|T]]|C|$]]|$1|D|3|-4|5|6|7|U|8|@]|9|@]|C|$]]]|E|$F|$5|G|H|I|C|$J|K]]|L|$5|G|H|I|C|$J|M]]]]

I don't think so, especially with the <a href="https://partner.microsoft.com/40011351" rel="nofollow noreferrer">empower program</a> for small ISVs -- $375 gets you 5 MSDN licenses and other goodies. After that there are <a href="https://partner.microsoft.com/US/program/managemembership/actionpack" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Microsoft Action Packs</a> as well as the entire partner program.

blocks|key|91802|text|我一直都有合法的、免费的Visual+Studio副本。你可以下载Express版本，它可以满足大多数人的需求，也可以去参加发布活动，在那里他们会把副本分发给每个到场的人。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|91803|是免费下载的，所以实际上只剩下运行.NET的盒子了。我敢打赌你肯定有个这样的家伙在某个地方。|91804|没有理由购买MSDN订阅。|91805|entityMap^0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|I|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|J|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|-4|5|6|7|K|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|G|$]]

I've always gotten legal, free copies of Visual Studio. You can either download the Express versions which will handle most people's needs or go to the Launch events where they literally give out copies to everyone who shows up.

.NET Framework is a free download, so really the only thing left is a box running Windows.. and I'd be willing to bet that you've got one of those kicking around somewhere.

There's no reason to purchase an MSDN subscription.

blocks|key|638495|text|这不是进入的障碍，但它肯定代表着玻璃天花板。Express版本有很多功能，但不是全部。专业版有很多小福利--例如%2Bcough%2B、Resharper、%2Bcough%2B等插件。我想说你至少需要Visual+Studio+20xx+Pro来做任何中端到企业级的开发。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|638496|微软开发人员工具的成本是我学习Linux的唯一原因。很难看到Linux，OS和Java上的所有免费开发工具。如果我的工作不是依赖于与.NET保持同步，我会让它在我的心跳中死去。|638497|entityMap^0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|F|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|G|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|-4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|E|$]]

It's not a barrier to entry, but it certainly represents a glass ceiling. You get a lot of things with the Express editions, but not EVERYTHING. There's a lot of little perks that come with the Pro versions - addins for instance +cough+ Resharper +cough+. I'd say you need Visual Studio 20xx Pro at a minimum to do any mid-range to Enterprise level development.

The cost of MS developer tools was the sole reason behind my Year of Linux. It's tough seeing all the free development tools for Linux, OS X and Java. If my job didn't depend on keeping up to date with .NET, I'd leave it for dead in a heartbeat.

blocks|key|3871760|text|在我看来，订阅MSDN并不是一个巨大的威慑，因为不仅有速成版，还有大多数产品的试用版本，我认为基本的MSDN订阅并不是那么昂贵。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|3871761|然而，某些开发人员工具以及某些产品的许可成本和许可复杂性可能是一个巨大的障碍，不幸的是，在项目开始时通常没有考虑到这一点。|3871762|据我所知，由于许可成本和许可复杂性，许多项目选择了替代技术。|3871763|entityMap^0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|I|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|J|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|F|3|-4|5|6|7|K|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|G|$]]

In my view MSDN subscriptions are not a huge deterrant, as not only are there express editions, there are also trial versions of most products, and I think a basic MSDN subscription is not that expensive.

However licencing costs and licencing complexity of certain developer tools as well as certain products can be a huge obstacle which unfortunately is often not thought about at the beginning of projects. 

I am aware of a number of projects which have chosen alternative technologies due to licencing costs and licencing complexity.

blocks|key|638499|text|我目前使用的是Empower+program，但当它用完时，我将支付全额车费，这与我每年支付800澳元的AutoCAD订阅费用相同--它很容易节省我更多的时间和麻烦，而不是长期而言，因为我可以随时获得所需的一切。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|offset|length|data|638500|我认为，当我同时考虑许可证和社区时，我得到的是物有所值--我认为其中大部分都是免费的。|638501|我认为这是我经营业务的合法成本，而且无论如何它都是可以扣税的。|638502|entityMap|0|LINK|mutability|MUTABLE|url|https://partner.microsoft.com/40011351^0|7|F|0|0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|P|8|@]|9|@$A|Q|B|R|1|S]]|C|$]]|$1|D|3|E|5|6|7|T|8|@]|9|@]|C|$]]|$1|F|3|G|5|6|7|U|8|@]|9|@]|C|$]]|$1|H|3|-4|5|6|7|V|8|@]|9|@]|C|$]]]|I|$J|$5|K|L|M|C|$N|O]]]]

I'm currently on the <a href="https://partner.microsoft.com/40011351" rel="nofollow noreferrer">Empower program</a> but I'll be paying the full fare when it runs out
 for the same reason I pay A$800/year for an AutoCAD subscription - it easily saves me more time &amp; hassle than it costs in the long run by having everything I need at my fingertips.

I think I'm getting value for money when I consider both the licenses as well as the community - most of which I suppose is free anyway.

I consider it a legitimate cost of running my business and it's tax-deductible anyway.

blocks|key|91913|text|我正在尝试重新开始我的事业，我的生活，等等，我之前的MSDN+Universal+sub在2005年到期了。在它过期的时候，我停止了一段时间的工作。这与微软改变订阅计划的成本和结构不谋而合。今天要获得类似的订阅是不可能的。我没有资金。我目前正在开发旧技术(VB6和ASP)，并将这样做，直到我有资金购买我想要的MSDN子。我已经下载了VS2008和SQL2008的"express“版本，但坦率地说，任何认真的开发人员都会想要利用"express”中没有的特性。在StackOverflow上探讨这个问题时，我看到其他人都在谈论Empower计划。它看起来很有希望，我将对其进行调查。|type|unstyled|depth|inlineStyleRanges|entityRanges|data|91914|但是，是的，进入的障碍是成本。希望授权能在一段时间内降低这一点。我同意它到期后我需要支付全额车费的要求。我认为这才是公平的。|91915|entityMap^0|0|0^^$0|@$1|2|3|4|5|6|7|F|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|B|3|C|5|6|7|G|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]|$1|D|3|-4|5|6|7|H|8|@]|9|@]|A|$]]]|E|$]]

I am trying to restart my career, my life, etc and my previous MSDN Universal sub expired in 2005. At the time it expired, I stopped working for a while. That coincided with Microsoft changing the cost and structure of that subscription program. To acquire a similar subscription today is out of the question. I do not have the funds. I am currently developing with old technology (VB6 and ASP) and will do so until I have the funds to purchase the MSDN sub that I want. I have downloaded the "express" versions of VS 2008 and SQL 2008 but, lets be frank, any serious developer is going to want to utilize the features that arent available in "express". In exploring this issue here on StackOverflow, I have seen others talk about the Empower program. It looks promising and I shall investigate it. 

But, yes, the barrier to entry is the cost. Hopefully Empower lowers that, for a while. I agree with the requirement that after it expires I will need to pay full fare. I think thats only fair.

I know just the question is a bit of heresey, but I'm curious...

Sure, there are the express editions. But when Microsoft is effectively competing for 'hearts and minds' in an OSS world, it seems more than a bit counterproductive to charge devs who wholeheartedly support .NET high subscription fees for Microsoft software. It's hard to imagine that, in the context of Microsoft's overall sales, dev licenses represent such a significant revenue stream as to justify the downsides. 

So my question is: do you know of any instances where MSDN subscription rates have deterred a team from adopting .NET for a project - where cost played a role in a decision to go OSS instead?

Does the cost of MSDN Subscriptions represent a deterrent to .NET adoption

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我知道这个问题有点异端，但我很好奇...当然，也有速成版的。但是，当微软在开放源码软件的世界中有效地争夺“心灵”时，向全心全意支持.NET的开发人员收取高额的微软软件订阅费似乎有些适得其反。很难想象，在微软整体销售额的背景下，开发许可代表着如此重要的收入来源，足以证明其不利之处。所以我的问题是:你是否知道MSDN的订阅费阻止了一个团队在项目中采用.NET的情况--成本在决定转而使用开源软件时起到了

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